Hey peeps, I just want to say that even as you read my post "Continuation of girls camp 2007---Homosexuality and the Ex-Gay Lifestyle", do read the comments that come with it. Because there are others whose voices you need to hear. And most importantly, I forgot to add in that everything I said in the post is definately not 100% correct. And honestly, I don't think there is a right or wrong in this topic. So yea, read the comments too because you might learn something more about this topic. I sure did. :)
Thanks to all who gave your comments!
Thursday, 20 December 2007
Wednesday, 19 December 2007
India...here I come!
Hey peeps, I'm going India! Only coming back in January. So my blog won't be updated yea. But anyway, do post in your comments and opinions about the post about gays...and also the one about the song "why can't a woman be more like a man".
Tata people, I'll tell you guys bout India when I come back! *Excited*
Tata people, I'll tell you guys bout India when I come back! *Excited*
Sunday, 16 December 2007
Continuation of girls camp 2007 --- Homosexuality and the Ex-gay Lifetstyle
I wanted to separate the posts because I think my previous post is too long. So anyway...
I also joined the workshop “The Heart of Worship” by Pastor Ng Wah Lok and “What do you do when no one is watching” by Pastor Edmund Smith. The heart of worship workshop was really interesting. Pastor Ng Wah Lok taught about how to plan songs for worship. Pastor Edmund Smith’s topic was a little bit shocking at 1st. It was Homosexuality and the Ex-Gay Lifestyle. I really didn’t expect it. And actually I didn’t choose it. I chose The heart of worship. But Pastor Ng can only come on the 1st day, and Pastor Edmund can only come on the 2nd and 3rd day, so both workshops were joined. And I’ve learnt a lot from Pastor Edmund Smith about gays and he has really changed my perspective of gays.
If you've read my post entitled "What would YOU do?", I had this thinking that gays are born like that. I had this perspective that gays cannot be changed. But through the workshop, I've learnt that there are people who were gay and now they're not. For example, Pastor Edmund Smith himself was gay. He had 3 elder brothers. So when his mother was pregnant with him, his parents expected him to be a girl. But when he was born a boy, his parents rejected him, especially his father. He told us that his mother rejected him at 1st but then later accepted him. But for the 1st 5 years of his life, his mother treated him like a girl and later treated him like a boy. So he was very confused about his gender. He told us he hated being a guy. He wanted so badly to be a girl. And he lead a gay lifestyle for almost 11 years. He later stopped being gay because he said he suffered and was depressed during the 11 years he was leading the gay lifestyle. But of course he said it was not easy to change from being gay to straight. But he said soon after he left the gay lifestyle, he found Jesus. And his life changed from there. And oh yea, he's married by the way. Blessed with 2 kids. =)
He taught us a lot of terms and also shared with us the issues that could lead to a person being gay. First he taught us about 2 stances : the pro-gay and ex-gay stance.
And also Pastor Edmund said, don't complain you're ugly, but rather remember that you are beautiful in God's eyes, and that's all that matters. God made all of us beautiful, so don't ever say or complain that you're ugly. He also said don't complain about being fat. But instead, exercise, eat well and rest well. (A big bang to my head for that. LOL)
Pastor Edmund said that many people always look for Mr/ Miss Right. And he was stressing that there is no such thing as Mr/ Miss Right, because no one is perfect. And he also said that no one completes us. He said for example, his wife does not complete him, but compliments him.
During one of the night sessions (not connected to this workshop), Pastor Eric Lau came to speak and he quote a saying from Pascal : "In the hearts of every men and women there is a God shaped vacuum that can only be filled by God the creator through Jesus Christ". This is so true.
*phew* So yea, he was telling us that gays are not born. God doesn't make gays. A person becomes gay mostly because he/she has not resolve either one, two, or all of these 3 issues. A person can also become gay because of influence from the world. He also taught about Deep Platonic Relationship. It is normal and possible, to love a person of the same sex deeply without involving romance/sexuality. So yea, don't get confused between admiration/ deep platonic relationship and love for the same sex in terms of romance.
He also taught us to be gay friendly but to stay strong to the ex-gay stance. We can be friendly to gays but it doesn't mean that we encourage that person being a gay/ leading a gay lifestyle. He also taught us not to reject gays or to mock gays.
Anyway, to learn more about Pastor Edmund's work (it's called the Real Love Ministry) , check out his website www.r-l-m.com
You can also check out this website www.exodus.to
I really found this workshop and the things Pastor Edmund taught very useful. I think now that gays and their lifestyle are beginning to be such a norm, these notes are very useful as awareness to the public. And also hope that a gay can be changed. Though it is not easy and it also depends on whether that person is willing or not. But yea, it is an interesting topic, and an important one too.
Hope you'll find this post useful. Do comment and give your opinions.
I also joined the workshop “The Heart of Worship” by Pastor Ng Wah Lok and “What do you do when no one is watching” by Pastor Edmund Smith. The heart of worship workshop was really interesting. Pastor Ng Wah Lok taught about how to plan songs for worship. Pastor Edmund Smith’s topic was a little bit shocking at 1st. It was Homosexuality and the Ex-Gay Lifestyle. I really didn’t expect it. And actually I didn’t choose it. I chose The heart of worship. But Pastor Ng can only come on the 1st day, and Pastor Edmund can only come on the 2nd and 3rd day, so both workshops were joined. And I’ve learnt a lot from Pastor Edmund Smith about gays and he has really changed my perspective of gays.
If you've read my post entitled "What would YOU do?", I had this thinking that gays are born like that. I had this perspective that gays cannot be changed. But through the workshop, I've learnt that there are people who were gay and now they're not. For example, Pastor Edmund Smith himself was gay. He had 3 elder brothers. So when his mother was pregnant with him, his parents expected him to be a girl. But when he was born a boy, his parents rejected him, especially his father. He told us that his mother rejected him at 1st but then later accepted him. But for the 1st 5 years of his life, his mother treated him like a girl and later treated him like a boy. So he was very confused about his gender. He told us he hated being a guy. He wanted so badly to be a girl. And he lead a gay lifestyle for almost 11 years. He later stopped being gay because he said he suffered and was depressed during the 11 years he was leading the gay lifestyle. But of course he said it was not easy to change from being gay to straight. But he said soon after he left the gay lifestyle, he found Jesus. And his life changed from there. And oh yea, he's married by the way. Blessed with 2 kids. =)
He taught us a lot of terms and also shared with us the issues that could lead to a person being gay. First he taught us about 2 stances : the pro-gay and ex-gay stance.
- Ex-gay stance = promotes ex-gay lifestyle and discourages gay lifestyle
- Pro-gay stance = promotes and encourages gay lifestyle
- gay = (for male and female) others drawn to a person of the same sex in a way of romance and sex
- lesbian = specifically for female homosexuals
- Gay friendly = to be friendly to gays, but hold the ex-gay stance. Aka do not hurt or reject gays, but be friendly to them and at the same time do not encourage their gay lifestyle/do not encourage them being gay.
- anti gay/homophobic = afraid of gays/hate gays. opposite of gay friendly
- hermaphrodite = one who is born with both genitals.(not necessarily gay)(due to genetics)
- Transgender= transfer of gender. one who has a Gender Identity Disorder. a female who wants to be a male and vice versa.
- Transsexual = transgender who go for sex change operation
- Transvestite = transfer of vest (clothes). a male who dresses like a female (or vice versa) mostly for fun/ performance.
- Androgynous = one who appears in the middle. Eg, a person looks a little like a man but at a certain angle looks like a woman.(not due to genetics)
- homophyllic = one who loves others of the same sex but has nothing to do with sex or romance.
- Deep Platonic Relationship = relationship whereby a person loves another of the same sex deeply without involving sex or romance.
- pedophile = adult who is drawn to children in a way of sex/romance.
- metro sexual = a man who is in touch with his feminine side.(eg man who cook, do facial, do sewing, cry, etc) it is usually a term for men and it is perfectly normal.
- fetrosexual = same as metro sexual but this term is used for girls (eg, girls who are strong, who love to play football/rugby etc etc
- butch = a girl who wants to be a guy. they will bind their breasts, cut their hair short, act like a guy etc
- SELF ISSUE
And also Pastor Edmund said, don't complain you're ugly, but rather remember that you are beautiful in God's eyes, and that's all that matters. God made all of us beautiful, so don't ever say or complain that you're ugly. He also said don't complain about being fat. But instead, exercise, eat well and rest well. (A big bang to my head for that. LOL)
- VACUUM ISSUE
Pastor Edmund said that many people always look for Mr/ Miss Right. And he was stressing that there is no such thing as Mr/ Miss Right, because no one is perfect. And he also said that no one completes us. He said for example, his wife does not complete him, but compliments him.
During one of the night sessions (not connected to this workshop), Pastor Eric Lau came to speak and he quote a saying from Pascal : "In the hearts of every men and women there is a God shaped vacuum that can only be filled by God the creator through Jesus Christ". This is so true.
- BARRIER ISSUE
*phew* So yea, he was telling us that gays are not born. God doesn't make gays. A person becomes gay mostly because he/she has not resolve either one, two, or all of these 3 issues. A person can also become gay because of influence from the world. He also taught about Deep Platonic Relationship. It is normal and possible, to love a person of the same sex deeply without involving romance/sexuality. So yea, don't get confused between admiration/ deep platonic relationship and love for the same sex in terms of romance.
He also taught us to be gay friendly but to stay strong to the ex-gay stance. We can be friendly to gays but it doesn't mean that we encourage that person being a gay/ leading a gay lifestyle. He also taught us not to reject gays or to mock gays.
Anyway, to learn more about Pastor Edmund's work (it's called the Real Love Ministry) , check out his website www.r-l-m.com
You can also check out this website www.exodus.to
I really found this workshop and the things Pastor Edmund taught very useful. I think now that gays and their lifestyle are beginning to be such a norm, these notes are very useful as awareness to the public. And also hope that a gay can be changed. Though it is not easy and it also depends on whether that person is willing or not. But yea, it is an interesting topic, and an important one too.
Hope you'll find this post useful. Do comment and give your opinions.
GIRLS CHRISTIAN CAMP 2007 -- AGAINST THE TIDE
Hey peeps! Sorry haven’t been updating my blog for so long. I’ve been cut off from the world for a week! LOL. Ok, not really cut off. I’ve been in camp from Sunday (9/12/07) till Friday (14/12/07) in SMK St Mary, Selayang. LOL, I use the word “cut off from the world” mainly because, all handphones were kept by the camp advisor throughout the whole week. And also because I couldn’t go online. XD. But no regrets, because even without handphones and computers, the camp has been a blast and I truly enjoyed every moment of it.
I’ve learnt so much through this camp, and I want to share with everyone through this post. The morning sessions taught me a lot, the night sessions were interesting, and the workshop…was truly God’s will.
The morning sessions were taught by Ms Low Mei Ling. On the 1st day, she taught about what Paul said in Romans 12:1-2, about offering “your bodies as living sacrifice”. She asked us what we thought sacrifice means. And she said this, sacrifice means to surrender something to gain something more desirable. Meaning that sacrifice is not just about letting go of something, but also getting something better in return.
She was also talking about life without rules. I remember there were certain people who said they didn’t want God in their lives because they didn’t want to be “controlled“. Then Aunty Mei Ling told us this story.
There was a football match in a primary school. Parents were there to support their children, all of them mothers except one man. The referee was late and so they asked the man to be the referee for the meantime. Unfortunately, the man didn’t know anything about football, the rules and so on. So, after much persuasion, the man finally agreed to be the referee, temporarily. Every time there was a foul, the man said, “play on”. No rules were applied and soon, the children were fighting and there was chaos on the football field. Thankfully, the referee reached and took over the game. This time, with certain rules, the game went on without fighting or chaos and the children enjoyed the football game.
What she wanted to say was, without rules, without boundaries, life can be chaotic and not fun. Whereas with rules and boundaries, the football game which represents life, can be fun and enjoyable. So basically, rules or God are not there to be over-controlling, and rules are not there to make life boring, but to avoid chaos and violence.
She also stressed the importance of having a close relationship with God. Basically it’s so that we can know who God really is, to know His intentions/purpose for us, and to realise our full potential which will help us succeed. *phew*. She talked about lots of stuffs and I can’t really share all of it because… I still have lots of things to share!!
Yea, during the night sessions, there was a video called hope of something (forgot already. Oops) Anyway, Wong Kim Kong, a polio victim told about his story, his struggle through life due to his disability and how he managed to overcome it with God’s help. It was really encouraging. The second night, there was a video about a woman from China who loved to dance. Then, she got into an accident and lost her left arm. She was devastated and she quit dancing. But later, persuasion from her friends made her realise that she still loved dancing and she decided to continue dancing. She practiced a lot and later found a man who lost one of his legs. And then…
*Sorry I abit cacat. LOL. I don't know how to upload vidoes from youtube over here. Anyway, press this to watch the video*
It was so inspiring, I almost cried. I hope this video will be an encouragement to you guys, that don’t let any obstacle stop you from doing the things you love the most.
I’ve learnt so much through this camp, and I want to share with everyone through this post. The morning sessions taught me a lot, the night sessions were interesting, and the workshop…was truly God’s will.
The morning sessions were taught by Ms Low Mei Ling. On the 1st day, she taught about what Paul said in Romans 12:1-2, about offering “your bodies as living sacrifice”. She asked us what we thought sacrifice means. And she said this, sacrifice means to surrender something to gain something more desirable. Meaning that sacrifice is not just about letting go of something, but also getting something better in return.
She was also talking about life without rules. I remember there were certain people who said they didn’t want God in their lives because they didn’t want to be “controlled“. Then Aunty Mei Ling told us this story.
There was a football match in a primary school. Parents were there to support their children, all of them mothers except one man. The referee was late and so they asked the man to be the referee for the meantime. Unfortunately, the man didn’t know anything about football, the rules and so on. So, after much persuasion, the man finally agreed to be the referee, temporarily. Every time there was a foul, the man said, “play on”. No rules were applied and soon, the children were fighting and there was chaos on the football field. Thankfully, the referee reached and took over the game. This time, with certain rules, the game went on without fighting or chaos and the children enjoyed the football game.
What she wanted to say was, without rules, without boundaries, life can be chaotic and not fun. Whereas with rules and boundaries, the football game which represents life, can be fun and enjoyable. So basically, rules or God are not there to be over-controlling, and rules are not there to make life boring, but to avoid chaos and violence.
She also stressed the importance of having a close relationship with God. Basically it’s so that we can know who God really is, to know His intentions/purpose for us, and to realise our full potential which will help us succeed. *phew*. She talked about lots of stuffs and I can’t really share all of it because… I still have lots of things to share!!
Yea, during the night sessions, there was a video called hope of something (forgot already. Oops) Anyway, Wong Kim Kong, a polio victim told about his story, his struggle through life due to his disability and how he managed to overcome it with God’s help. It was really encouraging. The second night, there was a video about a woman from China who loved to dance. Then, she got into an accident and lost her left arm. She was devastated and she quit dancing. But later, persuasion from her friends made her realise that she still loved dancing and she decided to continue dancing. She practiced a lot and later found a man who lost one of his legs. And then…
*Sorry I abit cacat. LOL. I don't know how to upload vidoes from youtube over here. Anyway, press this to watch the video*
It was so inspiring, I almost cried. I hope this video will be an encouragement to you guys, that don’t let any obstacle stop you from doing the things you love the most.
Friday, 7 December 2007
"Why can't a woman be more like a man?"
HIGGINS
Why can't a woman be more like a man?
Men are so honest, so thoroughly square;
Eternally noble, historic'ly fair;
Who, when you win, will always give your back a pat.
Well, why can't a woman be like that?
Why does ev'ryone do what the others do?
Can't a woman learn to use her head?
Why do they do ev'rything their mothers do?
Why don't they grow up- well, like their father instead?
Why can't a woman take after a man?
Men are so pleasant, so easy to please;
Whenever you are with them, you're always at ease.
Would you be slighted if I didn't speak for hours?
PICKERING
Of course not!
HIGGINS
Would you be livid if I had a drink or two?
PICKERING
Nonsense.
HIGGINS
Would you be wounded if I never sent you flowers?
PICKERING
Never.
HIGGINS
Well, why can't a woman be like you?
One man in a million may shout a bit.
Now and then there's one with slight defects;
One, perhaps, whose truthfulness you doubt a bit.
But by and large we are a marvelous sex!
Why can't a woman take after like a man?
Cause men are so friendly, good natured and kind.
A better companion you never will find.
If I were hours late for dinner, would you bellow?
PICKERING
Of course not!
HIGGINS
If I forgot your silly birthday, would you fuss?
PICKERING
Nonsense.
HIGGINS
Would you complain if I took out another fellow?
PICKERING
Never.
HIGGINS
Well, why can't a woman be like us?
[To Mrs. Pearce]
Mrs. Pearce, you're a woman...
Why can't a woman be more like a man?
Men are so decent, such regular chaps.
Ready to help you through any mishaps.
Ready to buck you up whenever you are glum.
Why can't a woman be a chum?
Why is thinking something women never do?
Why is logic never even tried?
Straight'ning up their hair is all they ever do.
Why don't they straighten up the mess that's inside?
Why can't a woman behave like a man?
If I was a woman who'd been to a ball,
Been hailed as a princess by one and by all;
Would I start weeping like a bathtub overflowing?
And carry on as if my home were in a tree?
Would I run off and never tell me where I'm going?
Why can't a woman be like me?
Why can't a woman be more like a man?
Men are so honest, so thoroughly square;
Eternally noble, historic'ly fair;
Who, when you win, will always give your back a pat.
Well, why can't a woman be like that?
Why does ev'ryone do what the others do?
Can't a woman learn to use her head?
Why do they do ev'rything their mothers do?
Why don't they grow up- well, like their father instead?
Why can't a woman take after a man?
Men are so pleasant, so easy to please;
Whenever you are with them, you're always at ease.
Would you be slighted if I didn't speak for hours?
PICKERING
Of course not!
HIGGINS
Would you be livid if I had a drink or two?
PICKERING
Nonsense.
HIGGINS
Would you be wounded if I never sent you flowers?
PICKERING
Never.
HIGGINS
Well, why can't a woman be like you?
One man in a million may shout a bit.
Now and then there's one with slight defects;
One, perhaps, whose truthfulness you doubt a bit.
But by and large we are a marvelous sex!
Why can't a woman take after like a man?
Cause men are so friendly, good natured and kind.
A better companion you never will find.
If I were hours late for dinner, would you bellow?
PICKERING
Of course not!
HIGGINS
If I forgot your silly birthday, would you fuss?
PICKERING
Nonsense.
HIGGINS
Would you complain if I took out another fellow?
PICKERING
Never.
HIGGINS
Well, why can't a woman be like us?
[To Mrs. Pearce]
Mrs. Pearce, you're a woman...
Why can't a woman be more like a man?
Men are so decent, such regular chaps.
Ready to help you through any mishaps.
Ready to buck you up whenever you are glum.
Why can't a woman be a chum?
Why is thinking something women never do?
Why is logic never even tried?
Straight'ning up their hair is all they ever do.
Why don't they straighten up the mess that's inside?
Why can't a woman behave like a man?
If I was a woman who'd been to a ball,
Been hailed as a princess by one and by all;
Would I start weeping like a bathtub overflowing?
And carry on as if my home were in a tree?
Would I run off and never tell me where I'm going?
Why can't a woman be like me?
A small part of a song from "My Fair Lady" which really got my thinking. Not that I'm sexist or anything. But yea, allow me...
Why can't a woman be more like a man? Well, this is why. Woman are sensitive, delicate and complex. Woman bicker about every petite thing because woman care. Woman's mind and heart is so hard for man to understand because of one thing woman has that a man doesn't have. Feelings. And not just any typical feelings. Feeling so deep that man would not be able to grasp. Why is thinking something woman never do? Why is logic never even tried? Because woman use don't only rely on logic and brains, but they take into account something more important...the heart. Why can't a woman be more like a man? Because this is the way that we are created. Sensitive, delicate, complex, maybe fussy we may be. But God loves us just as much to spend time creating every single one of us differently.
I wanted to point out a few bad stuffs bout man, because lately I've been a little bit emo and a little bit pissed at stuffs. But, don't want to cause an uproar so I'll just stop here.
But, yea. God created man and woman. Not man alone. Not woman alone.
Genesis 2:18-22 >>> The Lord God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him." .....Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
So yea. God created us, man and woman, equal. One is not more significant than the other. And most importantly, God loves is all abundantly and equally. Man or woman. Rich or poor. Pretty or ugly. Fat or thin. God loves us all.
Woman should have the same respect as man. And man should accept woman's flaws, woman's delicate heart, and even woman's fussiness :)
ps: Opinions and comments are open to all. Do share your point of view.
Did I mention? God is SO awesome!
I have faith...that I will pass my driving test. And guess what? I PASSED!!! WOOOHOOO!!!! Yea, really praise God, man. I couldn't have done it without Him. And He was there with me all the way.
Couldn't sleep well last night. Tossed and turned all night. Kept thinking what if I fail again. Prayed all the way from the driving school to the test centre. XD. Thank God I passed! You know, I was the 1st one to drive on the road. I mean, everyone just registered, and I was walking towards the waiting place. I just sat down, trying to calm myself down, and here comes a man examiner calling me. LOL. Got a shock. Wasn't ready at all. Haha. But yea, God was with me all the while. When I was driving, there were some parts where I thought I was going to fail. But PRAISE GOD! I passed! He is truly awesome!
Thank You so much Lord. I needed Your help and You helped me. Thank You!
ps...told you male examiner's not as strict as female examiner. (the 1st time a female examiner failed me)
Couldn't sleep well last night. Tossed and turned all night. Kept thinking what if I fail again. Prayed all the way from the driving school to the test centre. XD. Thank God I passed! You know, I was the 1st one to drive on the road. I mean, everyone just registered, and I was walking towards the waiting place. I just sat down, trying to calm myself down, and here comes a man examiner calling me. LOL. Got a shock. Wasn't ready at all. Haha. But yea, God was with me all the while. When I was driving, there were some parts where I thought I was going to fail. But PRAISE GOD! I passed! He is truly awesome!
Thank You so much Lord. I needed Your help and You helped me. Thank You!
ps...told you male examiner's not as strict as female examiner. (the 1st time a female examiner failed me)
Thursday, 6 December 2007
Driving... Ahhhhhh!!!!
Ok...know why I'm freaking out? Cuz my driving test is tomorrow! Yea. I took it once...and failed it. Sigh. Now I'm back to retake, but only the road part because I passed the parking, 3point turn and hill.
After a few months of not driving (about 5 months to be exact), I only took 6 hours of driving lesson. 6 hours! LOL. The first time I had my driving lesson (I mean after 5 months), I sat in the kancil, moved to first gear, lift up the clutch (too fast I think), and the car's engine died. Yup, that was like 4 days ago. And, oh yea... I crashed into a divider. >.<
Today I had my last 3 hours of driving lesson, using a proton saga. Kancil rosak. LOL. Yea, today's lesson was ok. At least my engine didn't die and I didn't crash into a divider. LOL. But it's proton saga. I think if I used the kancil my engine might've died. Oh well, tomorrow is the day and honestly....I'm VERY scared. I don't want to fail again. At the same time I don't want to bribe. It's so tempting to bribe especially when you know they might purposely fail you. But I've made up my mind and am standing firm to what I know is right. I'M NOT GOING TO BRIBE!! *bluek*
God, please help me. I can't do this on my own. I need Your help. Please help me pass. Please...
I trust in God and I know He won't leave me nor forsake me. I have faith in Him. I have faith...that I will pass.
After a few months of not driving (about 5 months to be exact), I only took 6 hours of driving lesson. 6 hours! LOL. The first time I had my driving lesson (I mean after 5 months), I sat in the kancil, moved to first gear, lift up the clutch (too fast I think), and the car's engine died. Yup, that was like 4 days ago. And, oh yea... I crashed into a divider. >.<
Today I had my last 3 hours of driving lesson, using a proton saga. Kancil rosak. LOL. Yea, today's lesson was ok. At least my engine didn't die and I didn't crash into a divider. LOL. But it's proton saga. I think if I used the kancil my engine might've died. Oh well, tomorrow is the day and honestly....I'm VERY scared. I don't want to fail again. At the same time I don't want to bribe. It's so tempting to bribe especially when you know they might purposely fail you. But I've made up my mind and am standing firm to what I know is right. I'M NOT GOING TO BRIBE!! *bluek*
God, please help me. I can't do this on my own. I need Your help. Please help me pass. Please...
I trust in God and I know He won't leave me nor forsake me. I have faith in Him. I have faith...that I will pass.
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